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SBS 2003 SP1 need to add additional domain controller (redundancy)

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scottbcs - 12 Aug 2008 20:53 GMT
We have a Windows SBS 2003 SP1 Server (biggest mistake ever) and plan to add
an additional domain controller for purposes of domain redundancy. We have a
new server running server 2003 R2 SP2 fresh load. My question/concern is
about adding this server to the domain. I assume we will be required to
update the schema because the new server is running R2. I have been searching
for resources on this all morning. Are there any special considerations to
accomplish this? normally we would just update the AD then add the domain
controller. However SBS is NEVER that simple doing anything. Any guidance or
reference to a resource about this is helpful.

Thanks,
Scott
drkc - 13 Aug 2008 23:16 GMT
I thought that SBS is 'single server, single DC' only. The trusts were
removed so you can't get it to work. I could be wrong...
David Olsen - 14 Aug 2008 14:18 GMT
SBS can have additional DCs but there can only be one domain.

David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au

>I thought that SBS is 'single server, single DC' only. The trusts were
> removed so you can't get it to work. I could be wrong...
drkc - 14 Aug 2008 15:58 GMT
Oh. Sorry. That's because of the trusts.

On a related question, since AD is so DNS dependent, how can I have a backup
DNS server to do name resolution when the server is down or being rebooted.

It may sound like a silly question but my MCSE is in NT4 and due to this
wonderful economy, I've not been able to advance and get more training. I did
setup a small Linux box here on our network but it doesn't seem too work well.

Thanks...
David Olsen - 14 Aug 2008 22:29 GMT
You could manually configure your clients to use an external DNS server (eg.
OpenDNS or the DNS server of your ISP) but this seems like an unneccessary
change for the time it takes for a server to reboot.
And if the server is down, then staff presumably aren't going to be able to
do much more than surf the web.

> Oh. Sorry. That's because of the trusts.
>
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> Thanks...
drkc - 14 Aug 2008 16:03 GMT
Also, aside from the user quantity limitations, we've found SBS to be great
for our small clients. We don't manage it with the 'server manager' tool.

It serves a purpose and wasn't meant to be a 'one size fits all' product.
David Olsen - 14 Aug 2008 22:30 GMT
Is there any particular reason you don't use Server Manager?

David Olsen
www.powerbits.com.au

> Also, aside from the user quantity limitations, we've found SBS to be
> great
> for our small clients. We don't manage it with the 'server manager' tool.
>
> It serves a purpose and wasn't meant to be a 'one size fits all' product.
drkc - 15 Aug 2008 00:34 GMT
I guess I've always liked doing things the hard way. I'm used to using the
utilities directly. Server manager makes it 'easier' for some people but I'd
just as soon not use it. Personal preference I guess.

> Is there any particular reason you don't use Server Manager?
>
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> > It serves a purpose and wasn't meant to be a 'one size fits all' product.
Igor - 05 Sep 2008 22:07 GMT
> I guess I've always liked doing things the hard way. I'm used to using the
> utilities directly. Server manager makes it 'easier' for some people but I'd
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> > >
> > > It serves a purpose and wasn't meant to be a 'one size fits all' product.
Igor - 05 Sep 2008 22:08 GMT
> I guess I've always liked doing things the hard way. I'm used to using the
> utilities directly. Server manager makes it 'easier' for some people but I'd
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> >
> > Hello everybody
Does somebody have any idea how to remove SBS from domain after adding 2K3
standard as second DC?
drkc - 05 Sep 2008 23:46 GMT
I believe that there is a Microsoft KB article about that.

Here is one site that I found It's not exact but covers some of what you
want to do:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30526614/adprep-r2--sbsx64.aspx

I would think that you could move all user accounts to the standard server
and then demote the SBS server and promote the standard server. Although I've
never done this. There is a Microsoft license to convert a SBS server into a
sztandard server. It 'unbundles' the bits from SBS. Well, if you need the
parts of SBS...

> > I guess I've always liked doing things the hard way. I'm used to using the
> > utilities directly. Server manager makes it 'easier' for some people but I'd
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> Does somebody have any idea how to remove SBS from domain after adding 2K3
> standard as second DC?
 
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