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Placek - 07 Jan 2006 18:25 GMT
Hello

My hard drive has the following hard drive structure:

Primary Partition 1 - FAT32 (1 GB)
Primary partition 2 - NTFS (Windows 2000) - 3.5 GB

I would like to install Windows NT 4.0 Workstation onto partition 1.
After logically formatting partition 1 as FAT32, i set it as the active
parttion and reboot to the NT setup disks

I select partition 1 as the installation partition and i get the message:

"Setup was unable to format the partition. The disk may be damaged. Make
sure the drive is switched on and properly connected to

your computer. If the disk is a SCSI disk, make sure your SCSI devices are
properly terminated. Consult your computer or SCSI

adapter documentation for more information.
You will have to select a different partition for Windows NT. Press ENTER to
continue. "

I tried deleting partition 1 and creating an identical one in its place, but
i got this message:

" Setup has encountered a fatal error that prevents it from continuing.
Contact your prodct support representative for
assistance. The follwoing status codes will assist them for diagnosing the
problem
<0x5, 0, 0x1>  "

What am I doing wrong? Any advice would be appreciated.

Martin
Dave Patrick - 07 Jan 2006 23:40 GMT
Not possible. Your choices are fat16 or NTFS

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| Martin
Placek - 08 Jan 2006 01:27 GMT
Hi Dave

I've tried FAT16 and got the same error message. Any other suggestions?

Martin

> Not possible. Your choices are fat16 or NTFS
>
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> | Martin
Dave Patrick - 08 Jan 2006 01:59 GMT
What drive controller are you using? If the drive controller is not natively
supported then you'll want to boot the Windows NT setup disks or CD-Rom.
Then *F6* very early and very important (at setup is inspecting your system)
in the setup to prevent drive controller detection, and select S to specify
additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer
supplied Windows NT driver for your drive's controller in drive "A"

If you wait and then S to specify additional drivers, then it may be too
late as Windows NT Setup at this point may have already assigned the
resources your drive's controller is wanting to use.

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| Hi Dave
|
| I've tried FAT16 and got the same error message. Any other suggestions?
|
| Martin
Placek - 08 Jan 2006 23:50 GMT
Hi Dave
I've  got a Maxtor 2B020H1 20GB IDE Disk. Does this mean i need to follow
your advice?


> What drive controller are you using? If the drive controller is not natively
> supported then you'll want to boot the Windows NT setup disks or CD-Rom.
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> |
> | Martin
Dave Patrick - 08 Jan 2006 23:57 GMT
The drive probably doesn't matter whereas the drive controller does matter.

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| Hi Dave
| I've  got a Maxtor 2B020H1 20GB IDE Disk. Does this mean i need to follow
| your advice?
Placek - 09 Jan 2006 01:08 GMT
Oh......i'll do some research and follow your advice. Thanks again.
Martin Placek

> The drive probably doesn't matter whereas the drive controller does matter.
>
> | Hi Dave
> | I've  got a Maxtor 2B020H1 20GB IDE Disk. Does this mean i need to follow
> | your advice?
Dave Patrick - 09 Jan 2006 01:48 GMT
You're welcome.

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| Oh......i'll do some research and follow your advice. Thanks again.
| Martin Placek
nt4-ever - 09 Jan 2006 20:13 GMT
he said:
" Primary partition 2 - NTFS (Windows 2000) - 3.5 GB "

might be problem since 2000 has Newer version
of NTFS that NT-4 cannot recognize Until
Service Pack 6a is installed ... ??
nt4-ever - 09 Jan 2006 20:30 GMT
he said:
"Maxtor 2B020H1 20GB IDE Disk"

oops forgot about that Gotcha
until in earlier post, Dave-P said:
"You'll need atapi.sys from SP4 or later for
Windows NT to be able to recognize a drive larger than ~ 8 gB"
Dave Patrick - 09 Jan 2006 21:55 GMT
It won't matter until sometime later since the partition presumably will be
created by Windows NT setup. The OP should apply SP6A and rollup before
starting up Windows 2000

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| he said:
| " Primary partition 2 - NTFS (Windows 2000) - 3.5 GB "
|
| might be problem since 2000 has Newer version
| of NTFS that NT-4 cannot recognize Until
| Service Pack 6a is installed ... ??
Calvin - 09 Jan 2006 22:45 GMT
Hi Placek,

Since your drive is over 7.8GB in size the problems associated with large I.D.E.
hard disks and NT4 will probably surface. Read
http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/bigdisk.htm for further details.

Calvin.
Steven - 10 Jan 2006 03:10 GMT
>Read http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/bigdisk.htm for further details.
>
>Calvin.

Calvin,

Thanks kindly for the link and the excellent set of pages.  I just read
the USB page and the IONetworks release allows me to use my flash drive
in NT4.  Previously I had to boot to W98 or W2k for this.  Amazing !!!

Thanks again,

Steven
Calvin - 10 Jan 2006 05:07 GMT
Hi Steven,

Glad the IONetworks code helped you - it is a first class coding effort from
people who obviously KNOW what they are doing !!  It just goes to prove
conclusively what a crock Microsoft's claims that USB couldn't (read we couldn't
be bothered) be added to NT4 :-(

Calvin.
Steven - 10 Jan 2006 08:01 GMT
Calvin,

>Glad the IONetworks code helped you - it is a first class coding effort from
>people who obviously KNOW what they are doing !!

Yes, I read their webpage after I installed the drivers.  The detail is
impressive and they even allowed for users migrating to NT5.  Another
good feature (compared to W98) is that I don't need drivers for each
different flash drive.

I have a 430TX chipset and have previously tried the R62200 package and
the code from Woodhead.  I couldn't get the R62200 code to do anything.
The Woodhead code just caused a system halt when I connected any device.
I assumed the problem was due to my old chipset.

-- Steven
Calvin - 10 Jan 2006 08:09 GMT
> I have a 430TX chipset and have previously tried the R62200 package and
> the code from Woodhead.  I couldn't get the R62200 code to do anything.
> The Woodhead code just caused a system halt when I connected any device.
> I assumed the problem was due to my old chipset.

Hi,

the older chipsets were known to cause problems on a lot of the NT4 USB
solutions offered. The R62200 Dell solution is in fact an earlier build of the
IONetworks stuff.

I have the opposite problem here - which I believe is caused by compatibility
problems with my video card or sound card drivers - the older IONetwork drivers
work perfectly, the newer builds, which have changed the driver structure and
introduced a new system level driver (ionpnp.sys) don't work here and blue
screen the system :-(  Oh well, you can't have everything - I'll stick to the
older drivers !

Calvin.
 
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