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Mary M - 22 Feb 2005 20:02 GMT
How should SP6a be installed on NTServer? Can you just run the setup with
the current services running? Are there any "gotchas" going from 4 or 5 to
6a or is the installation of SP6a pretty straightforward? My concern is with
the current apps and any drivers that may be replaced.

Thanks for any input.
John John - 23 Feb 2005 14:28 GMT
Well... hmmm...  Usually goes well if you keep your fingers crossed, but
your hearth may skip a few beats during the process.

1-  Best to make sure that you have a complete backup before you
proceed.  If things go right wrong a "Bare Metal" restore could save
your hide.

2-  Make sure you have an updated Emergency Repair Disk before you
proceed.  Try using the rdisk /s  command.  If it can't fit the
information on the diskette create a regular ERD and do an "Update
Repair Info" to store the repair info on the hard drive.  This ERD may
be a real life saver!

3-  Schedule this activity when problems would less affect your users,
like on a holiday or a weekend when no one or fewer persons rely on the
server.  Not a good idea to try this on a Monday morning 5 minutes
before the users start the work week!

4-  Read the "Readme" file in the SP package.  The file may contain
important information concerning special issues with your hardware or
system configuration or known issues with the SP update.

Other than that just do it and hope for the best!  Usually it goes well
but as you know "Mr Murphy" may come a knocking on the door anytime with
his "Law Book".

Good luck.

John

> How should SP6a be installed on NTServer? Can you just run the setup with
> the current services running? Are there any "gotchas" going from 4 or 5 to
> 6a or is the installation of SP6a pretty straightforward? My concern is with
> the current apps and any drivers that may be replaced.
>
> Thanks for any input.
John John - 23 Feb 2005 14:56 GMT
PS.  With your complete backup MAKE SURE that you create Emergency Start
Disks!  You create these disks in the backup software, depending on what
backup software you use.  This usually requires four or more formatted
diskettes.  Without these diskettes your backup may be completely
useless for bare metal restoration... I learned that the hard way many
years ago!

John

> Well... hmmm...  Usually goes well if you keep your fingers crossed, but
> your hearth may skip a few beats during the process.
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>>
>> Thanks for any input.
Mary M - 24 Feb 2005 16:55 GMT
Thanks for the response. What is a "bare metal" restore?
John John - 24 Feb 2005 17:37 GMT
That's when you can wipe the whole drive right clean and do a restore on
the clean drive to "exactly" as you had it when you did the backup.
"Bare Metal" in the sense that there is absolutely nothing on the pc, no
Operating System.  Works great in cases of catastrophic failure!  You
need the startup disks because of SAM encryption, NTFS drivers and
certain other critical files that can't be backed up with regular
backups.  It's an ERD plus what ever else the backup software needs for
bare metal restore process.  No need to install anything, you format the
drive then start the pc with the diskettes then the backup software
takes over and performs the restoration.  And voila!  When you restart
the pc it's as if nothing ever happened.  A welcome sight when it boots
up to familiar territory...  Like a ghost image but even easier.

John

> Thanks for the response. What is a "bare metal" restore?
Mary M - 24 Feb 2005 21:11 GMT
Thanks for the great explaination. Do you need special backup software for
this or will products like AcrserveIT or BackupExec be able to do "bare
metal" restores?

Many thanks again.
John John - 24 Feb 2005 22:26 GMT
You don't need special backup software, just good backup software.  This
is one of the most important basic features of any backup software.
Let's say your hard drive blows up, what to do now?  Easy, put in a new
HD, partition and format it, start the pc with the backup emergency disk
and in no time you're up and running.  If your backup software can't do
that pitch it in the trash can.

BackupExec with tapes is what I use and yes it can do that.  Arcserve is
highly respected and well spoken of so I would certainly think that it
can do the same thing.  I would think that almost all backup software
worth more than five cents can do this.  I'm at home now so I can't look
exactly where in BackupExec the function is, just poke around in there
and you will find something like "Create Emergency Recovery Disks", or
look in the help files.  Then make sure you have a full backup,
including the Registry that you can use for such emergencies.

You can even test the backup.  Find yourself a test hard drive and
remove the hard drive in your pc and install the test drive.  Partition
the drive, keeping in mind system partition size limits for NT4, format
it and then try starting the pc with the Emergency diskettes.  See if it
works for your setup.  When you're done and satisfied that the backup
works as expected you can remove the test hard drive and stick the other
one back in.  You'll have peace of mind once you see how and if it
works.  The main problem that I have seen with these bare metal restores
is that people don't do full system backups often enough, and yes that
includes even me... which make me think that tomorrow I will do one...

John

> Thanks for the great explaination. Do you need special backup software for
> this or will products like AcrserveIT or BackupExec be able to do "bare
> metal" restores?
>
> Many thanks again.
 
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