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Stop message installing NT 4.0 Server on IBM xSeries

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Charlie - 17 Sep 2004 23:07 GMT
Trying to install NT 4.0 Server on new IBM xSeries 206. Processor is 2.8 GHz
pentium with 256 mb ram and 2 simple-swap 80 gb serial ATA drives in RAID 1
configuration. Using Promise PCI raid controller card that has NT drivers.
Drives have been partitioned and formatted. Setup gets to a point, after
controller driver is loaded but still in text part of setup, and stops with
same message at same point everytime.

Stop 0x0000003E (0x00000080, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) with no
descriptive text for message.

Can't find any relative info for this. According to IBM site, this
particular model has not been certified for NT 4.0 but see no reason why
shouldn't work.
Bjorn Landemoo - 20 Sep 2004 20:59 GMT
Charlie

0x3E means MULTIPROCESSOR_CONFIGURATION_NOT_SUPPORTED. Is your processor
hyper-threading capable? If it is, what happens if you turn this off in
BIOS?

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Bjorn
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Bjorn Landemoo - mvp2@landemoo.com - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

>Trying to install NT 4.0 Server on new IBM xSeries 206. Processor is 2.8 GHz
>pentium with 256 mb ram and 2 simple-swap 80 gb serial ATA drives in RAID 1
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>particular model has not been certified for NT 4.0 but see no reason why
>shouldn't work.
Charlie - 21 Sep 2004 03:58 GMT
Turned off. Makes no difference.
> Charlie
>
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> >particular model has not been certified for NT 4.0 but see no reason why
> >shouldn't work.
Bjorn Landemoo - 21 Sep 2004 19:49 GMT
Charlie

What happens if you force setup to use the uniprocessor HAL? This MS
Knowledge Base article might help in the process:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=132512

The error message must, as far as I can understand, mean that NT4 setup
detects a multiprocessor system that it doesn't support. If you cannot get
a HAL that works, a possibility might be running NT4 within VMWare, while
using Win2000 as a host OS.

Best regards

Bjorn
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Bjorn Landemoo - mvp2@landemoo.com - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

>Turned off. Makes no difference.
>> Charlie
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>> >particular model has not been certified for NT 4.0 but see no reason why
>> >shouldn't work.
Charlie - 22 Sep 2004 13:33 GMT
It is running HAL.DLL which as far as I can tell is the correct one for
single processor, Intel based machines. Have run debug version of NTDETECT
at startup to try and resolve hardware conflicts but hasn't helped. This
message also appears to be for Windows 2000. Cannot be sure it is pointing
to same type of problem due to lack of descriptive text. Have already
purchased 2000 Server and hope I can get applications to work correctly
which is main reason for trying to stick with NT  in the first place. Its
one thing to know what does not work and why but to not know for sure where
the problem lies is the hard part.

Thanks for your continued input.

> Charlie
>
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> >> >particular model has not been certified for NT 4.0 but see no reason why
> >> >shouldn't work.
Bjorn Landemoo - 22 Sep 2004 19:37 GMT
Charlie

If you get problems also with Win2000 I would suspect some type of hardware
problem. Also, NT4 shouldn't have any specific problem with the processor,
as it seems to be a regular P4 2.8GHz with 800MHz FSB according to IBM spec
sheet.

You say that Win2000 doesn't give you any descriptive text when it errors
out. What happens? Just a hang, a blue screen, any information at all, that
could be used for a search in MSKB, MSDN, Google?

Best regards

Bjorn
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Bjorn Landemoo - mvp2@landemoo.com - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

>It is running HAL.DLL which as far as I can tell is the correct one for
>single processor, Intel based machines. Have run debug version of NTDETECT
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
>why
>> >> >shouldn't work.
Charlie - 23 Sep 2004 02:26 GMT
The only hits you get for this message are for Windows 2000 installs and
they all reference the same text about multiple processors but this is
occurring during NT setup and the message has no text. Don't know if it is
referencing same type of problem or is misleading. Windows 200 Server
installed with no problem.

> Charlie
>
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> >why
> >> >> >shouldn't work.
Bjorn Landemoo - 23 Sep 2004 19:18 GMT
Charlie

After Googling a bit I found many that had exactly the same problem with
NT4, but not with later Windows operating systems. It seems to be a problem
with NT4 and a "Prescott" CPU. Even Microsoft employees has confirmed the
problem. This link, for instance, gives you a news thread about the
problem:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=uJfDKPadEHA.3616%40TK
2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D0x0000003E%2Bnt%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3
Den


(Beware, URL might wrap)

Best regards

Bjorn
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Bjorn Landemoo - mvp2@landemoo.com - http://landemoo.com/
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server - File System)

>The only hits you get for this message are for Windows 2000 installs and
>they all reference the same text about multiple processors but this is
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>> >why
>> >> >> >shouldn't work.
 
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