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Problems sending email to AT&T customers

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Susan - 18 Mar 2004 17:20 GMT
I have not been able to get emails through to several
different AT&T customers for months.  I get bouncebacks
stating that the delivery failed "due to a communications
failure"  AT&T assures me they are not blocking us, the
clients are not blocking us, and AT&T said it might be a
problem with my email server.  

If it is a problem with my server, how do I find out?
What kinds of problems could it be?
What things can I try to do to fix it?

Thanks,

Susan
Jeff Cochran - 18 Mar 2004 22:03 GMT
>I have not been able to get emails through to several
>different AT&T customers for months.  I get bouncebacks
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>If it is a problem with my server, how do I find out?

Look at the logs, look at the NDR files if any.

>What kinds of problems could it be?

Might be DNS, but it's tough to tell without *any* details.

>What things can I try to do to fix it?

Look at the SMTP logs and see what's happening.  Try a NSllokup on
AT&T's mail server and check that your SMTP can resolve the MMX
record.  Make sure you have a valid reverse DNS record for your mail
server.  make sure you're not on a blacklist.  And next time you can't
get email through "for months" start looking at the problem a little
sooner.

Jeff
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 18 Mar 2004 22:35 GMT
Be patient please.  I am not a techie and I don't know how
to do some of the things you thought I could try.  I have
been battling with this issue for so long, calling and
emailing anyone who I thought might be able to help and no
one seems to know anything about their JOBS!  I have
responded to several of your comments below.  Thanks
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>Look at the logs, look at the NDR files if any.

How do I do this?

>>What kinds of problems could it be?
>
>Might be DNS, but it's tough to tell without *any*
details.  I don't have *any* details.  there isn't even
any header info in the bouncebacks.  This started right
after we changed ISP's and our ISP can't even explain.

>>What things can I try to do to fix it?
>
>Look at the SMTP logs and see what's happening.  Try a NSllokup on
>AT&T's mail server and check that your SMTP can resolve the MMX
>record.  

How do I do this?

Make sure you have a valid reverse DNS record for your mail
>server.  

I do not, but I don't know how to change that

make sure you're not on a blacklist.  I have checked.  I
am not being blacklisted.

And next time you can't
>get email through "for months" start looking at the problem a little
>sooner.

I have been working on this problem every week since
September.  AT&T would not respond to inquiries, my ISP
kept blaming AT&T, and none of these so
called "professionals" seem to have any idea what the
problem is!  I am not a techie.  I am just trying to get
the company's email working properly with no help from
ANYONE

If you could tell me how to do this things you suggested
in your email, I would greatly appreciate it.  This chat
group was my last idea and I got a response back faster
than I did from any of the other places I tried.

Thanks!
Susan
Jeff Cochran - 19 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT
>Be patient please.  I am not a techie and I don't know how
>to do some of the things you thought I could try.  I have
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>How do I do this?

Depending on how you may have set this up, the Windows SMTP logs are
normally in \\winnt\system32\logfiles\smtp.

One question I didn't ask is "Are you running your own SMTP server?"
If not, the problem isn't under your control.

>>>What kinds of problems could it be?
>>
>>Might be DNS, but it's tough to tell without *any*
>details.  I don't have *any* details.  there isn't even
>any header info in the bouncebacks.  This started right
>after we changed ISP's and our ISP can't even explain.

Does your ISP hanlde your DNS?  Are you behind a firewall or proxy
server?  Does your ISP handle your email?

>>>What things can I try to do to fix it?
>>
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>How do I do this?

Look at the logs as I explained further up.  Also, from your mail
server, try to Ping the destination address from the messages that
don't get through.

>Make sure you have a valid reverse DNS record for your mail
>>server.  
>
>I do not, but I don't know how to change that

Add it.  :)

Depending on your DNS server, you may or may not have a reverse DNS
zone (your ISP may also manage it).  If no reverse zone exists, add a
new reverse DNS zone and add a PTR record for the system defined in
your DNS MX record.

>make sure you're not on a blacklist.  I have checked.  I
>am not being blacklisted.

There are many and you may not know.

>And next time you can't
>>get email through "for months" start looking at the
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>the company's email working properly with no help from
>ANYONE

What has your ISP told you? And again, do they run your mail server?

>If you could tell me how to do this things you suggested
>in your email, I would greatly appreciate it.  This chat
>group was my last idea and I got a response back faster
>than I did from any of the other places I tried.

We have no life.  :)

Jeff
Susan - 22 Mar 2004 17:44 GMT
I tried looking at the SMTP logs, but winnt\system32
\logfiles is empty.  We always use the defaults when
storing something, so I don't know where the logs could be.

Yes, our ISP does host our DNS.  We handle our own mail
server and use our ISP as a passthrough.  They don't offer
us any firewalls.

Our ISP has told us they have no idea what the problem
is.  As far as they are concerned their shouldn't be any
problem.  However, none of this occurred until we switched
to their service.  They have basically been of no
assistance in this matter.  They can't solve the problem,
but refuse to let us out of the contract.

Any further suggestions?  Any other ideas on where logs
might be stored?

Thanks for all your help
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>Jeff
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