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WINDOWS MEDIA ENCODER LIVE STREAMING

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skatapantou@gmail.com - 17 Jun 2007 13:08 GMT
Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it..

exable
source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc

i want multimedia source...is that possible?
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] - 18 Jun 2007 22:34 GMT
>Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it..
>
>exable
>source: mms://10.0.0.3:1234 and not source one tv tuner etc etc
>
>i want multimedia source...is that possible?

Windows media encoder does not support mms streaming, it uses http.

To re-stream an existing live stream, you would want to operate
windows media services, which is a component of windows server 2003
(you would want any version *apart* from the web version of windows
server).

WMS provides the lpp:// protocol name to re-stream from another media
server to clients running media player.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
skatapantou@gmail.com - 19 Jun 2007 14:02 GMT
So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there
windows media services?where can i find windows media services to
download them? can i select there in how many kbps i want to stream?

so i will get input mms or http and output would be lpp://ip:port

windows media player can play lpp:// ??

thank you!!

           Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]       :

> >Hi.I want to take source an mms link and restream it..
> >
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> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] - 19 Jun 2007 21:57 GMT
Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable
that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download
required - as I said, avoid the web edition of WS2003 because that
option is not available even for download

You can definitely select how many kbps per stream for the entire
server, or per publishing point (i.e for each mms://server/streamname)

You can input http or rtsp and re-steam it, the lpp:// protocol is
used in a server playlist, and connects to an incoming steam source or
internally to another publishing point without sending then receiving
the stream

When you install the streaming media server, all this is covered in
the built-in help files.

HTH
Cheers - Neil

>So my server should be windows server 2003 and then install there
>windows media services?where can i find windows media services to
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>> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
skatapantou@gmail.com - 20 Jun 2007 07:47 GMT
On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]"
<n...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Windows media services is one of the server options, you would enable
> that under the "Configure my server" wizard. There is no download
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> ------------------------------------------------
> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to
make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH..
email me your msn if you want to talk..
skatapantou@gmail.com - 20 Jun 2007 07:56 GMT
> On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]"
>
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH..
> email me your msn if you want to talk..

one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want
to take http in put and have http output right?
skatapantou@gmail.com - 20 Jun 2007 20:21 GMT
also..are there any plugins in order to have authentication to the
people who will connect to the stream? i see theres an authentiation
system but for people only in group Skatapantou( (in localhost)....

are there any plugins for that? i would like to find more plugins and
see what i can do with them ;)

not just for authentication..but for anything..

skatapan...@gmail.com       :
> > On Jun 19, 11:57 pm, "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]"
> >
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> one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want
> to take http in put and have http output right?
Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] - 20 Jun 2007 22:18 GMT
>> Thank you.I instaled windows 2003 server in one of my PCs in order to
>> make it work and then rent a server!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH..
>> email me your msn if you want to talk..
>
>one more question....it does not need to know about lpp:// if i want
>to take http in put and have http output right?

Yes, correct - you may choose the source of a publishing point http.

LPP protocol is used to create a second publishing point in a server
to reduce buffering and connection lag.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/server/faq.aspx#3_2
and see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms753558.aspx

Using a second publishing point to broadcast the data with the lpp://
source set to the one connected to the remote server is one way to
reduce this issue.

But try to avoid rtsp (especially rtspu). The reason is that http uses
TCP and "reliable transport" so that your  streaming server may
request the remote streaming server to retransmit if there is loss of
data.

If that lost data is passed on to the media player, it may make for a
bad experience, possibly missing audio or video.

Data loss is possible using UDP connections, and the lost data cannot
be recovered - so if you are archiving a stream to a file as well as
broadcasting it out, you will find the archived file is permanently
incorrect.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
skatapantou@gmail.com - 21 Jun 2007 06:19 GMT
Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from
vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!!
Then i sselected in vlc output video WMV2 and sound output mp3...i
tryed it again but wms cannot start :(

PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to
my streams?(something like drm)
skatapantou@gmail.com - 25 Jun 2007 09:28 GMT
anybody knows????
skatapan...@gmail.com       :
> Thank you Neil...Also i am trying to get input a stream(http) from
> vlc(videolan org) but service cannot start in wms!!
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> PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to
> my streams?(something like drm)
skatapantou - 26 Jun 2007 23:59 GMT
bumb
skatapan...@gmail.com       :
> anybody knows????
> skatapan...@gmail.com       :
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> > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to
> > my streams?(something like drm)
Mike Lowery - 27 Jun 2007 15:22 GMT
Antagonist!

> bumb
> skatapan...@gmail.com       :
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>> > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to
>> > my streams?(something like drm)
skatapantou - 29 Jun 2007 09:23 GMT
> Antagonist!
>
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> >> > PS are there any plugins to download in order to add authentication to
> >> > my streams?(something like drm)

what?
 
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