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how secure is my ip setup for internet connection

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Jamie Gilmour - 31 Jul 2003 14:48 GMT
currently I have the following setup in place:

sbserver with 1 internal nic and 1 external nic.

netgear dg814 ADSL router connected to server only via
external nic.

internal ip range: 192.168.16.xx
server: 192.168.16.2
external nic: static internet ip xxx.xxx.xxx.70(assigned
by isp)
router: static internet ip xxx.xxx.xxx.69(assigned by isp)

Under the internet connection wizard I have allowed isa
packet filtering allowing access to:
mail server
web server
web based mail server
pop3
ftp

SB server box is only server in office and is the file and
mail server and therefore contains all critical
information for business.

everything is working well including internet sharing via
proxy server and outlook web access, but I am concerned
that the server is open to internet security threats.  I
have only the standard ISA filters inplace that the
internet connection wizard sets up by default.  Any advice
as to the security of this setup would be greatly
apreciated.  

Thank you
Keith - 31 Jul 2003 15:10 GMT
I'm pretty sure others will jump in quickly here, but you
have some serious security issues here, because:
1. You are running a web server, eg you have port 80 wide
open, hope you are fully patched etc.
2. You are also running an FTP server, this has some very
serious implications, I would think it won't be too long
before you see some idiot dumping files (probably porn)
onto your server.

I STRONGLY suggest you re-run the ICW and close the web
server, FTP, and Web based mail server down, unless you
really need them.

IMHO I would think most people on this newsgroup would say
don't host a  web server on an SBS box, even though you
can.

Keith

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Jamie - 31 Jul 2003 16:01 GMT
Thanks for the advice I have re-reun ICW and closed FTP
but I would like to retain Outlook Web Access over the
internet.  So I was wondering what I need to leave open to
allow this and whether this can be done securely.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

Jamie

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Les Connor [SBS MVP] - 31 Jul 2003 16:20 GMT
Hi Jamie,

You're kind of *wasting* the public IP on your external nic. It will work
OK, but you could use a private (non-routeable) ip address instead.
Additionally, if you set up OWA via SSL, or enable your SBS for VPN
connections you will be able to close port 80.

Configuring VPN is not a bad option at this point, as you'll be able to
access pretty well whatever you want on the lan through the vpn tunnel. One
of the drawbacks to VPN is that the client computer must be trusted.

Information on these configurations (and much more) can be found at
http://www.smallbizserver.net

--
Les Connor
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[SBS MVP]

> Thanks for the advice I have re-reun ICW and closed FTP
> but I would like to retain Outlook Web Access over the
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Javier Gomez - 31 Jul 2003 16:25 GMT
I agree with Keith...

You can run OWA using VPN (best way) or using SSL (not as secure... but
better than IIS in port 80).

For OWA tru SSL read Chad's excellent tutorial at:
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_do_I_configure_OWA_with_SSL.aspx

For VPN access you can read:
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_do_I_connect_clients_to_the_server_usi
ng_VPN.aspx


By the way... you should close all those packet filters that you left
(unless you are really using them). And remember that since you have another
firewall in front of ISA... you need to configure this one as well when you
are opening/closing ports.

My $0.02,

Javier

> Thanks for the advice I have re-reun ICW and closed FTP
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Les Connor [SBS MVP] - 31 Jul 2003 17:07 GMT
Actually, a good case has been made for OWA over SSL, versus <everything>
over VPN.

When you expose OWA over SSL, then only OWA is exposed. When you allow VPN
connections, by default you put the client on the lan and if the client box
is infected then that could spell disaster.

--
Les Connor
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[SBS MVP]

> I agree with Keith...
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> For VPN access you can read:

http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_do_I_connect_clients_to_the_server
_using_VPN.aspx

> By the way... you should close all those packet filters that you left
> (unless you are really using them). And remember that since you have another
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Javier Gomez - 31 Jul 2003 17:34 GMT
Les,

Was that discussion on the SBS2003 NG? I'm asking because if there's another
one (apart from that)... I would like to see it. Do you have a link for
other similar discussions?

My concern is something like a worm attacking IIS on port 80/443... were you
can have a vulnerability that allows elevation of privileges vs. the same
thing happening on a VPN port. What are your thoughts on this?

I mean... one usually use a VPN link between a "trusted/safe" computer (such
as a home computer) and the server.

Thanks,

Javier

> Actually, a good case has been made for OWA over SSL, versus <everything>
> over VPN.
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> > For OWA tru SSL read Chad's excellent tutorial at:

http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_do_I_configure_OWA_with_SSL.aspx

> > For VPN access you can read:

http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_do_I_connect_clients_to_the_server
> _using_VPN.aspx
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Les Connor [SBS MVP] - 31 Jul 2003 18:23 GMT
Javier,

That discussion is the one that caught my attention.

VPN from trusted client computers is fine. The problems are:

a) how do we *know* we can trust the client computer? A mistake here could
spell disaster. Client computers on the lan are not difficult to keep an eye
on, but once they're remote then our level of trust obviously has to go
down. Sure, the owner *says* he's got A/V software, and it's up to date,
yada yada yada. But how does one know. And, conditions could change at any
time.

b) one of the most desirable features is the ability to access your exchange
from any computer, trusted or not. Kiosk for example. Your sisters' computer
(while you visit her in another city/country etc.) is another example.

You may not have permission to create a VPN connection, and even if you did,
you may not want to. The way OWA/SSL is implemented in SBS2k3 looks like a
really good solution. So easy to configure and use. Public vs. Trusted
modes. Access to *only* OWA.

If you travel with your laptop, it's yours to keep secure. I don't see a
problem with VPN here - hey we know where the blame lies if there ever is a
problem.

With SBS2k3 there is just so much more that can be done, easily - and
securely. <a lot of this can be done in SBS2k as well, but requires
substantial manual configuration>.

VPN is an option for trusted computers, and a good one. But it's not a
requirement, and isn't really an option for public or untrusted computers -
and so far I think OWA/SSL is.

I'm also putting a good measure of faith in recent MS initiatives, and more
importantly the SBS development team. Their initiatives are not small in
this area.

--
Les Connor
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[SBS MVP]

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