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E-mail and Exchange Server

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Frank - 22 Feb 2005 20:39 GMT
I have a sbs2003 installation. I want to send and receive e-mail using only
my ISP's pop and SMTP servers. How can I configure exchange server not to
send internet e-mail. We use Outlook2003 and have both exchange server and my
ISP's pop and smtp servers configured. I have run the ICEW wizard to disbale
internet e-mail but exchange seems to always get in the way.

thanks for your help.
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] - 22 Feb 2005 20:48 GMT
go to administrative tools, services, stop and disable all Exchange Services

Go to OL, remove the Exchange account
Create a new pop3 account with ISPs pop and smtp server and there you go
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>I have a sbs2003 installation. I want to send and receive e-mail using only
> my ISP's pop and SMTP servers. How can I configure exchange server not to
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> thanks for your help.
Frank - 22 Feb 2005 20:59 GMT
Thanks for the quick reply. I still want to use exchange server for local
(internal) e-mail, public folders, user calendars, etc. Won't I lose all of
that?

> go to administrative tools, services, stop and disable all Exchange Services
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> > thanks for your help.
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] - 22 Feb 2005 21:09 GMT
well yes, but you didn't indicate that in your original post

So is the issue mail is just not going through your ISP's SMTP Server?

Are your workstations configured for just Exchange or Exc and the ISP?

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> Thanks for the quick reply. I still want to use exchange server for local
> (internal) e-mail, public folders, user calendars, etc. Won't I lose all
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Frank - 22 Feb 2005 22:15 GMT
Yes the workstations are configured for both exchange and my ISP. I would
like to use exchange for my local e-mail and my ISP for my externel internet
e-mail. I have a problem sending e-mail to some addresses at aol.com and
another .org address. However I don't have the problem when exchange is not
configured on Outlook.

For example when I send e-mail to aol, it never gets there. When I go to the
exchange server management console under servers->queues. I see a link to
aol.com and a status of retry. At some point a returned email gets sent to
Outlook saying my e-mail has been delayed. I thought if I ran ICEW and
checked disable internet e-mail, exchange would not be involved.

> well yes, but you didn't indicate that in your original post
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> >> > thanks for your help.
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] - 23 Feb 2005 08:55 GMT
When you send mail from Outlook and want it to go to the outside world...are you clicking on Accounts and then selecting the ISP account??
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 Yes the workstations are configured for both exchange and my ISP. I would
 like to use exchange for my local e-mail and my ISP for my externel internet
 e-mail. I have a problem sending e-mail to some addresses at aol.com and
 another .org address. However I don't have the problem when exchange is not
 configured on Outlook.

 For example when I send e-mail to aol, it never gets there. When I go to the
 exchange server management console under servers->queues. I see a link to
 aol.com and a status of retry. At some point a returned email gets sent to
 Outlook saying my e-mail has been delayed. I thought if I ran ICEW and
 checked disable internet e-mail, exchange would not be involved.

 "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

 > well yes, but you didn't indicate that in your original post
 >
 > So is the issue mail is just not going through your ISP's SMTP Server?
 >
 > Are your workstations configured for just Exchange or Exc and the ISP?
 >
 > --
 > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
 > ---------------------------------------
 > Please reply only to the newsgroup and not to me directly so that everyone
 > can benefit from the information
 > "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
 > news:E1F400D5-CACC-44E8-BD10-2359AC8A0265@microsoft.com...
 > > Thanks for the quick reply. I still want to use exchange server for local
 > > (internal) e-mail, public folders, user calendars, etc. Won't I lose all
 > > of
 > > that?
 > >
 > >
 > > "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
 > >
 > >> go to administrative tools, services, stop and disable all Exchange
 > >> Services
 > >>
 > >> Go to OL, remove the Exchange account
 > >> Create a new pop3 account with ISPs pop and smtp server and there you go
 > >> --
 > >> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
 > >> ---------------------------------------
 > >> Please reply only to the newsgroup and not to me directly so that
 > >> everyone
 > >> can benefit from the information
 > >> "Frank" <Frank@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
 > >> news:E7739EEE-BCD2-4364-B852-D0A1CF048545@microsoft.com...
 > >> >I have a sbs2003 installation. I want to send and receive e-mail using
 > >> >only
 > >> > my ISP's pop and SMTP servers. How can I configure exchange server not
 > >> > to
 > >> > send internet e-mail. We use Outlook2003 and have both exchange server
 > >> > and
 > >> > my
 > >> > ISP's pop and smtp servers configured. I have run the ICEW wizard to
 > >> > disbale
 > >> > internet e-mail but exchange seems to always get in the way.
 > >> >
 > >> > thanks for your help.
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 >
 >
 >
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] - 28 Feb 2005 14:46 GMT
> Yes the workstations are configured for both exchange and my ISP.

Respectfully, why?

> I
> would like to use exchange for my local e-mail and my ISP for my
> externel internet e-mail.

Again, why? Why not host all your mail directly? You're missing out on a lot
(for example, OWA) and your setup is not efficient, and will be a pain to
administer. And mail delivery will be slower. And you can't control
everything centrally w/r/t antivirus, attachment blocking,  Etc etc etc.

> I have a problem sending e-mail to some
> addresses at aol.com and another .org address.

Could happen anyway - they may be blocking you if you're on a dynamic IP
and/or your public IP doesn't have a PTR (reverse lookup record) in DNS.

> However I don't have
> the problem when exchange is not configured on Outlook.

What SMTP server are you using with your POP account?

> For example when I send e-mail to aol, it never gets there. When I go
> to the exchange server management console under servers->queues. I
> see a link to aol.com and a status of retry.

See above..

>  At some point a returned
> email gets sent to Outlook saying my e-mail has been delayed. I
> thought if I ran ICEW and checked disable internet e-mail, exchange
> would not be involved.

This is not recommended. Host your domain's mail directly on the Exchange
server, not your ISP's. (Heck, even the Dreaded POP Connector would be
better than your current setup.) Use only Exchange in your Outlook profile -
make sure your recipient policy is set up to use your Internet domain for
the default/reply address, as well.

If you are still having problems sending out to the Internet, see if your
ISP will permit you to relay all Internet-bound mail through their SMTP
server as a smarthost (if you have to call them, don't tell them you have a
mail server - they may freak out for no reason).

In Exchange System Manager, set up an SMTP connector that specifies * in the
address space (or enter the domains you wish individually)
Select the option to forward to a smarthost, put your ISP's SMTP server
there
If required, set up authentication using your usual login/password

You have a perfectly good mail server in Exchange. You do not need to use
anyone else's to receive mail. Keep things as simple as possible and you'll
find things run a lot better.

For info on hosting your own mail, read
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF002.html - since you're on SBS, you
will need to re-run the CEICW, but it's good to understand how this all
works anyway.

NB: The best group for SBS 2003 questions is
microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs -

>> well yes, but you didn't indicate that in your original post
>>
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>>>>> thanks for your help.
 
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