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Jan Kucera - 08 Feb 2007 22:03 GMT
Hi,
I would like to ask how should I configure Exchange, AD and clients to fill
this scenario:

The company has its own e-mail, company@company.com, to which has some of
the employers access for reading as well as for sending e-mails.
Each person has two e-mails, one for business, surname@company.com and one
personal, firstname@company.com.

Company is running Win 2003 SBS Standard, Exchange 2003.
My current solution was:
 - AD account with "surname" login
 - AD account with "firstname" login, with loging in disabled
 - AD account with "company" login, also disabled.

On the server side, company e-mail was allowed to be accessed from some
employers, and each firstname e-mail was allowed to be accesed by lastname
account.

On the client however (Outlook 2007), there had to be Exchange account,
automaticaly the loging-in account, which is lastname. Then, additional
Exchange accounts are the firstname one and the company one if applicable.
However, additional IMAP accounts were needed to be able to send e-mails
from company or firstname mails, the Exchange way did not worked, perhaps
because of security settings.

Now we are going to do full reinstallation, so my question is, if this
solution is the only possible, since I don't like it very much. Do I need to
create the AD accounts only for mails? Could the Outlook 2007 load all the
Exchange accounts which are available for the particular user? Do I have to
set up these duplicate IMAP accounts? Or how do I set up the Exchange to
allow sending e-mails from the Exchange alternative accounts? Is it possible
without this "from firstname/company on behalf of secondname" header?

How would you solve this?
   Thank you for any idea,
          Jan
Mark Arnold [MVP] - 09 Feb 2007 17:49 GMT
>Hi,
> I would like to ask how should I configure Exchange, AD and clients to fill
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>    Thank you for any idea,
>           Jan
This took some reading and working out.
Can you explain exactly why you need different mailboxes for the three
functions?
Given that I'm fairly sure you will know that you can have as many
SMTP addresses attached to a user account as you want and the users
can separate the mail into the three parts. (Any reason you're
allowing users to get personal emails into your Exchange anyway?)
Jan Kucera - 10 Feb 2007 09:36 GMT
>>Hi,
>> I would like to ask how should I configure Exchange, AD and clients to
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> can separate the mail into the three parts. (Any reason you're
> allowing users to get personal emails into your Exchange anyway?)

The company mailbox is needed because
 1) customers mostly don't know who works on their order. So they just send
data to the company mail. Also orders unrelated mail is being sent there.
 2) at the time the company didn't have its own server (and so many
employers), it had three company mailboxes from public providers (just
because sometimes some didn't work at these times) so the server regularly
picks up these and stores them in the company exchange account.

The surname mailbox is needed just as you would expect, also some people
just do work from another branch and this would be more mess than necessary
if mixed in the common mailbox.

The personal mailbox is not my business. Let's take it as a company
politics, that they offer personal e-mails for their employers. This is not
america and half of them even don't have access to internet at home...

By the way, we are talking about maximum of ten employers, if this explains
something. :-)

How can I add SMTP addresses to the user account without creating separate
outlook account?

Thank you for your patience,
 Jan
Mark Arnold [MVP] - 14 Feb 2007 18:00 GMT
>>>Hi,
>>> I would like to ask how should I configure Exchange, AD and clients to
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>  1) customers mostly don't know who works on their order. So they just send
>data to the company mail. Also orders unrelated mail is being sent there.

Well that's just an address, not a mailbox necessarily. It could be a
distribution group, group mailbox or public folder with an address. Do
you know anything about that? If you do you can have a think about it,
if not you can come back and ask for a little help in deciding which
route to go.

>  2) at the time the company didn't have its own server (and so many
>employers), it had three company mailboxes from public providers (just
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>politics, that they offer personal e-mails for their employers. This is not
>america and half of them even don't have access to internet at home...

Here's a plan for you.
Use two MAPI profiles in Outlook. Configure Outlook to prompt for the
profile when it starts. Call each profile Personal and Work.

>By the way, we are talking about maximum of ten employers, if this explains
>something. :-)
>
>How can I add SMTP addresses to the user account without creating separate
>outlook account?

No longer applicable, see above.

>Thank you for your patience,
>  Jan
Jan Kucera - 14 Feb 2007 19:48 GMT
Hi Mark,
 I really appreciate your answer. See comments below.

>>The company mailbox is needed because
>>  1) customers mostly don't know who works on their order. So they just
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> if not you can come back and ask for a little help in deciding which
> route to go.

Well in fact, the mail sent to the company mailbox is being sorted
(manually) to the public folders and subfolders by orders.
I have never heard about group mailbox or public folder with an address, but
it sounds promising, could you please introduce it for me a little bit? I
only don't want to take the incoming mail and duplicate it into several
mailboxes, what, I guess, is the distribution group for, isn't it?

>>  2) at the time the company didn't have its own server (and so many
>>employers), it had three company mailboxes from public providers (just
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Use two MAPI profiles in Outlook. Configure Outlook to prompt for the
> profile when it starts. Call each profile Personal and Work.

... and then both profiles will have their Exchange account as the main
account, that seems like a very good idea.

>>By the way, we are talking about maximum of ten employers, if this
>>explains
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> No longer applicable, see above.

However, I would be very pleased to know the answer. ;-)

As I am reading through, I wonder if I have to visit each computer to set
this configuration or if it is possible to applicate it globally during
installation?

Thank you very much,
        Jan
Mark Arnold [MVP] - 15 Feb 2007 20:19 GMT
>Hi Mark,
>  I really appreciate your answer. See comments below.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>only don't want to take the incoming mail and duplicate it into several
>mailboxes, what, I guess, is the distribution group for, isn't it?

Investigate Mail Enabling public folders. It's quick and easy to do
and is in the online help in Exchange System Manager.

A Group Mailbox is nothing more than another AD account and mailbox
that's called "Orders" or "Info", whatever.
You then apply permissions on that so the users in those departments
can open the mailbox. You then go to the email profiles and "Open
another users mailbox".
Again, that's pretty simple to do.
If you need people to send email as if they were "info@domain.com" you
can give them "Send As" rights. (Again, google and online help are
there for you)

You're right. A Distri Group is not for you if you only want one copy
delivered to one place.

>>>  2) at the time the company didn't have its own server (and so many
>>>employers), it had three company mailboxes from public providers (just
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>this configuration or if it is possible to applicate it globally during
>installation?

You will want to go to each workstation and show them how to work it.
It sounds like the users are none too advanced and might need a little
training.

>Thank you very much,
>         Jan

The personal email should really be in this totally separate account
in a totally separate Mail profile. See above on that.
Jan Kucera - 15 Feb 2007 22:32 GMT
Okay Mark,
 thank you very much for your help.

        Jan
 
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