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Exchange 2003 solution H/W Req

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Mazen - 09 May 2006 11:26 GMT
Guys I need immediate help

i need to know minimum hardware requirement for an exchange server with
10.000 accounts (30MB mailboxes)
Initially am thinking is to have 2 cluster as backend connected to 1
terabyte SAN and 1 front end servers as the following

Backend servers  
Intel® Xeon™ processor at 3.6 GHz
4 GB memory

Front end servers
Dual Intel® Xeon™ processor at 2.8 GHz
2 GB memory

Is the above H/W SP are ok?

Also I have another requirement I’ll post it in minutes

A million thanx in advance
Regards,
Mazen
Al Mulnick - 10 May 2006 03:15 GMT
Hopefully the next message you post has a lot more information. There isn't
even close to enough information there to hazard a guess.
If you haven't already, there're sizing documents available at
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/library
It'll cover everything from user profiling to network to disk etc.

Al

> Guys I need immediate help
>
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> Regards,
> Mazen
Mazen - 10 May 2006 16:56 GMT
I won’t post message here if I have time to go through all that doucments
My quatation was very simple… how many servers needed for 10.000 mailboxes
on exchange backend front end deployment anyway Microsoft guys reply us as
the  following  A/A/A/A/P/P – FE/FE ....Mazen
John Fullbright [MVP] - 10 May 2006 20:46 GMT
That's a strange response.  From MSKB 815180 we know that the max active
users per EVS in an active/active design is 1900.  We also know that this
represents 40% of the max capacity of a node.  We can infer that a single
node is good to 3800 active users or so, still leaving 20% headroom.
Given this, A/A/A/P should suffice.  Of course this assumes that all users
are active at the same time.  If your concurrency rate is lower, you could
go higher.  I've done 7500 users per EVS/active node in low concurrency
environments.

On the front end, it depends on quite a few things as well, including usage
pattern, hardware ssl offload, etc.  In most cases two FE or three FE
servers with NLB will suffice.

Note:  Each node in an Exchange MSCS cluster requires a Windows 2003
Enterprise and Exchange 2003 Enterprise license.  Front end servers require
only Windows 2003 and Exchange Server 2003, not the enterprise versions.

>I won't post message here if I have time to go through all that doucments
> My quatation was very simple. how many servers needed for 10.000 mailboxes
> on exchange backend front end deployment anyway Microsoft guys reply us as
> the  following  A/A/A/A/P/P - FE/FE ....Mazen
Al Mulnick - 13 May 2006 22:31 GMT
Understood.
Hope it works out well for you.  I noticed that John posted a response
questioning the suggestion of a 6-way cluster (a/a/a/a/p/p).  From what
you've said to date, you're not likely to pull that off.  My past experience
tells me that folks unable/not willing to read the docs are not good
candidates for clusters in the first place.  To successfully use Microsoft
(or any vendor for that matter) clusters, you really need a high level of
discipline to keep from melting down your environment.

One thing you'd find in that documentation I pointed out is why the
recommendation to use 6 nodes (4 active and 2 passive). That's important to
understanding what makes the cluster work. Understanding why you would even
want to cluster in the first place is incredibly important.  Cluster is very
expensive and even if money is no object, is highly complex and takes a
great deal more time and discipline to make work. IMHO, you'd be better off
using stand-alone BE servers.  Likely just max them out (HP makes some
really nice DL 58x series machines; something comparable might be useful to
you). Disk layout is incredibly important as you scale this up.  If you
instead went with multiple smaller BE servers, say a farm of them, you could
split the users down and therefore your risk of an outage due to hardware
failure, significantly, however your maintenance would be more difficult as
well.  The tradeoffs continue as you continue down the line figuring out
what's important to you and what's not.

In the end your question was very simple.  The information needed to
accurately answer, guide you is not present.  Your results and the answers
you receive based on your simple question will vary.

Like I said, I wish you all the best and hope it works out well.

Al

>I won't post message here if I have time to go through all that doucments
> My quatation was very simple. how many servers needed for 10.000 mailboxes
> on exchange backend front end deployment anyway Microsoft guys reply us as
> the  following  A/A/A/A/P/P - FE/FE ....Mazen
 
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