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Mazen - 20 Apr 2006 13:24 GMT
Hi all,

We have 4 branches almost 70 employees in each branch; right now all users
are accessing our Exchange 2003 cluster at the head office. My Boss wants to
install Exchange server at each branch to minimize WAN traffic. So we need to
install Exchange server & create mailboxes associate with each branch office.
Does front end back end setup can help me? Please help

Mazen
Paul Ford - 20 Apr 2006 14:20 GMT
Mazen,

If the employees will all access the servers from inside the organisations
network then a Front-end topology will not be of any benefit.

Have a look at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/E2k3FrontBack/e7fa5
dcc-d93f-4441-aace-c52e5baedc2a.mspx?mfr=true

and also
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/febetop.mspx

Regards

Paul Ford
Edge IT Ltd

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Mazen - 20 Apr 2006 20:27 GMT
Thanx Paul

i am looking for a soultion to have multiple mailbox Server with one domain.
so i can place each server in different city....

Regards,
Mazen
Loay Olabi - [MVP] - 21 Apr 2006 00:11 GMT
Yes mazen, deploy an Exchange server in each location. use the routing group
topology
Check this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/E2k3TransnRouting/5
4165310-f98c-4757-b5ca-1f0ea35d2252.mspx?mfr=true

and this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/E2k3TechRef/1b43ddb
f-e140-4b51-ac8b-d1a3ce0bd7bc.mspx?mfr=true


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Andrew Sword [MVP] - 22 Apr 2006 06:22 GMT
Front-End Server will not really help much unless your have specific
security requirements and your network has differing DMZ layers.

It possible it best to centralize the servers as less need to managed. More
server will add more hardware and software cost. Then there is the time to
manage backups, deploy patches and troubleshoot problems. If you are adding
more server weigh up the overhead compared to increasing network bandwidth.
Also network bandwidth can be prioritized by allowing certain traffic to
have a higher priority.

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Mazen - 22 Apr 2006 10:46 GMT
Hi Andrew

Appreciate your point & defiantly agree with you. I explain that to the
management but they ready to spend money & accept any consciousness in the
long run

Loay,

Does the routing topology can determine mailbox location?

Example
User in the Site1 should not comminute to any server unless the mailbox is
not located in the same server

also if you can tell me the Minimum bandwidth requirement for GC's
replication

Mazen.
Al Mulnick - 22 Apr 2006 14:55 GMT
No, you could still have instances where the user would have to communicate
across the WAN to access data.  For example, public folder data would have
to traverse the WAN at some point (whether to replicate or to be accessed -
decision is which is going to be more).  If you share mailbox folders,
you'll have to access that mailbox regardless of where it lives (which
site).

I think your management misunderstands how Exchange works on the wire. It is
FAR better with respect to the network to follow Andrew's topology
suggestions vs. decentralizing Exchange.  In addition to the network traffic
for mail, you also have to traverse the WAN for authentication/directory
usage. If you instead use the cached mode and possibly use RPC/HTTP you
don't ever have to use the WAN if you have internet connections from each
site and you can contain your Exchange server in the same site, provide
better backup/recovery services and likely reduce the network bandwidth used
on the WAN.

It's a tradeoff between user traffic and replication, routing, Active
Directory, etc traffic, and the client accessing the servers for service.
There's some consideration to user perception of service in there, but that
comes later in this conversation I think.

Al

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Mazen - 22 Apr 2006 17:47 GMT
OK,
Lets say, i have dedicated exchange server on each site,
not a front end back end solution,
all the servers will be having the same domain name for mail.
for example example.com
so i have like 10 servers with the name example.com  when user from site 1
sending to a user on site 4 he will type his e-mail@example.com which is not
existing on site's 1 server,
can i configure exchange to route specific users to specific servers and so
on?
thanks
Mazen
Al Mulnick - 23 Apr 2006 02:54 GMT
You miss the point of Exchange.  Exchange handles that routing for you
making it so you, the admin don't have to worry about where the user is
located in relation to his email address.

Short answer, that would work effortlessly (note, some clients will even
resolve the user name prior to sending the message, others will be submitted
to the server and then routed properly; this is in contrast to the
Sendmail/Postfix routing scheme which uses a one-domain/one-host <OK,
natively it does this but could be different in theory> routing topology by
default.

Does that help? Or have I just confused things?

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> Mazen
Andrew Sword [MVP] - 23 Apr 2006 05:01 GMT
Another  point to consider in centralizing Exchange is mail will need to be
delivered to relevant servers at each site, there will be Public Folder and
AD replication.

If management is aware of the advantages and disadvantages of each approach
there's not much else to do.

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Mazen - 23 Apr 2006 07:58 GMT
Andrew & Al mulnick,

Thanks for your help in this regards, I know am gonna have nightmare
maintaining these servers, but nothing I can do about it. Anyway I have last
request since I never done such exchange deployment i need some step by step
guide
Appreciate if any Good website for the same 

A million thanx    
Mazen
Al Mulnick - 23 Apr 2006 19:43 GMT
No worries.  There's a lot of step by step instructions here:
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/library
You'll also want to have a look here: http://www.microsoft.com/ad

Drop a note if you get stuck!

Al

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> Mazen
 
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