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CDO-generated message stays in outbox on this computer

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Vadim Rapp - 21 May 2005 02:24 GMT
Hello:

I'm trying to send a message using CDO 1.21 through Exchange 2000. The
message stays in outbox. The code I'm iusing is the sample at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cdo/html/_olemsg_creating_and_sending_a_
message.asp
.

Note that the message is in outbox already in the Exchange store. I can
connect to Exchange from another computer, and I see it in Outbox. That
looks like the problem lies outside of my computer.

But, when I'm running the same client code at another computer, it gets
delivered instantly.

What might be causing this? I googled for several hours, found dozens
of posts about messages staying in the outbox, but not a single explanation.

thanks,

Vadim Rapp
Dmitry Streblechenko - 23 May 2005 17:40 GMT
Does the recipient actually receive the message? What is your Outlook
version?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

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Vadim Rapp - 24 May 2005 23:31 GMT
Hello Dmitry:
You wrote in conference
microsoft.public.exchange2000.clients,microsoft.public.win32.programmer.messaging
on Mon, 23 May 2005 09:40:18 -0700:

DS> Does the recipient actually receive the message?

No. I saw the article discussing that effect when it's sent but appears as
not. In my case, the message is not sent indeed.

DS> What is your Outlook version?

2002 SP3.

Vadim
Dmitry Streblechenko - 25 May 2005 00:13 GMT
Is Outlook online (connected to Exchange) when your message is being sent?

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

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Vadim Rapp - 25 May 2005 04:18 GMT
Hello Dmitry,
You wrote in conference
microsoft.public.exchange2000.clients,microsoft.public.win32.programmer.messaging
on Tue, 24 May 2005 16:14:30 -0700:

DS> Is Outlook online (connected to Exchange) when your message is being
DS> sent?

No, Outlook is not started.

thanks,

Vadim
Dmitry Streblechenko - 25 May 2005 21:37 GMT
I meant offline (cached) vs online store...

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

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Vadim Rapp - 27 May 2005 12:44 GMT
Hello,
You wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 13:37:03 -0700:

DS> I meant offline (cached) vs online store...

It's outlook 2002, not 2003. Once outlook is started, it sends the message
soon, w/o any efforts on my part.

thanks,
Vadim
Raffi - 23 May 2005 23:23 GMT
Are you able to send a message from within Outlook itself without the message
hanging in the outbox ?

Which version of Outlook are you using?

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Vadim Rapp - 24 May 2005 23:32 GMT
Hello Raffi:
You wrote in conference
microsoft.public.win32.programmer.messaging,microsoft.public.exchange2000.clients
on Mon, 23 May 2005 15:23:01 -0700:

R> Are you able to send a message from within Outlook itself without the
R> message hanging in the outbox ?

Yes. Also, if I start Outlook and perform "send/receive", the message goes.

R> Which version of Outlook are you using?

2002 SP3.

thanks,

Vadim Rapp
Henry Gusakovsky - 25 May 2005 08:21 GMT
What about this option in Outlook:

Tools->Options->Mail Setup-> Send immediately when connected
Is it checked ?

WBR
Henry
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Vadim Rapp - 25 May 2005 20:16 GMT
Hello Henry:
You wrote  on Wed, 25 May 2005 10:21:14 +0300:

HG> What about this option in Outlook:

HG> Tools->Options->Mail Setup-> Send immediately when connected
HG> Is it checked ?

It is checked; and yes, Outlook, when started, does send the message from
the outbox. The problem is to send it without Outlook.

I forgot to mention that I also inserted session.delivernow in the program,
which is supposed to send anything unsent; no effect.

thanks,

Vadim
Raffi - 27 May 2005 03:40 GMT
Try changing this line just for a test:

objMessage.Send showDialog:=False

To:
objMessage.Send showDialog:=True

And see the outcome.

You are using Outlook 2002, so there is also the Outlook security model that
you need to make sure lets your program send messages.

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Vadim Rapp - 27 May 2005 13:03 GMT
Hello,
You wrote on Thu, 26 May 2005 19:40:02 -0700:

R> Try changing this line just for a test:

R> objMessage.Send showDialog:=False

R> To:
R> objMessage.Send showDialog:=True

R> And see the outcome.

it showed the message; I sent it; the message stayed in the outbox.

In my email cp applet I have specified "ask for profile". Now that I
specified showdialog=true, I got not one but two prompts for the proile: one
on objSession.Logon; then another when I clicked "send" in the message.

thanks,

Vadim
Raffi - 27 May 2005 15:14 GMT
And you are not getting any security popups while running this code?

Did you try creating a new profile and testing with that newer profile?

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Vadim Rapp - 27 May 2005 19:16 GMT
Hello Raffi:
You wrote  on Fri, 27 May 2005 07:14:03 -0700:

R> And you are not getting any security popups while running this code?

R> Did you try creating a new profile and testing with that newer profile?

No popus; no errors, including to "delivernow"; yes, tried new profile, same
result.

I wonder, how sending the message occurs in Exchange. Since the initial
message is created already in Outbox, and it can be there under composition
for some time, at what point Exchange decides it's time to deliver it? is it
some signal from the client application? of maybe some flag in the message
itself?

thanks,

Vadim Rapp
Henry Gusakovsky - 28 May 2005 16:10 GMT
There is no requirement to Create message in the Outbox.

Exchange is store provider is tightly coupled to it's transport provider.
So it can send messages without MAPI spooler.
But before sending it asks MAPI subsystem if that message should be
processed by spooler.
So if MAPI returns yes Exchange provider just adds message to the it's
outgoing queue.
That queue can be flushed in the Outlook up to 2000 version.
Since Outlook XP flushing spooler outgoing queue is broken.

So you need to imitate click on the 'Send/Receive' button.

WBR
Henry
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